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The Shire of Adamastor Questionaire Thingey

This is an attempt at drawing up a questionaire to get people's feelings and thoughts regarding the two/one shire issue. I (Simon) originally just cut and paste from various emails on the list, but some questions have been added since then by various people.

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Questions: 18


Questions and Answers

(Please note that Ginevra will be using questions from this list to make up the paper questionaire on Saturday 25th June )

1. We need to have 2 bank accounts. (1 = strongly disagree; 5 = strongly agree)
::{ Alastair - 3 }

{ Simon - 4 }
:{ Rainer- 3 }
{ Thomas - 5 }
:{ Rannulf - 3 }
{ Hendrik - 3 }
:{ Sister MJ - 5 )
{ Llewelyn - 5 }
:{ Jehanne - 5 }
{ Ginevra - 5 }
:{ Patrick - 5 - we're essentially doing this already but just using the same one and faking it to the SCA org. }

2. The Shire of Adamastor is a single shire in thought, spirit, word and deed. (1 = strongly disagree; 5 = strongly agree)
::{ Alastair - 1 }

{ Simon - 2 }
:{ Rainer - 2 }
{ Thomas - 1 }
:{ Rannulf - 3 }
{ Hendrik - 1 }
:{ Sister MJ - 1 )
{ Llewelyn - 2 }
:{ Jehanne - 1 }
{ Ginevra - 2 }
:{ Patrick - 1 }

3. The SCA in South Africa will be significantly harmed by splitting into two
separate shires. (1 = strongly disagree; 5 = strongly agree)

{ Alastair - 5 }
:{ Simon - 2 }
{ Rainer- 2 }
:{ Thomas - 1 }
{ Rannulf - 2 }
:{ Hendrik - 1 }
{ Sister MJ - 1 }
:{ Llewelyn - 1 }
{ Jehanne - 2 }
:{ Ginevra - 1 }

::{ Patrick - 1 }

4. Does the idea of a South African wide Barony appeal to you?
::{ Alastair - Not now }

{ Simon - Yes }
:{ Rainer- YES }
{ Thomas - Indifferent}
:{ Rannulf - yes }
{ Hendrik - Not at all }
:{ Sister MJ - Very much }
{ Llewelyn - Yes }
:{ Jehanne - yes }
{ Ginevra - YES }
:{ Patrick - yes }

5. Do you think one single South African SCA structure undermines your local group's
identity?

{ Alastair - Maybe }
:{ Simon - Maybe }
{ Rainer - Maybe }
:{ Thomas - Yes }
{ Rannulf - No }
:{ Hendrik - Definitely }
{ Sister MJ - Yes }
:{ Llewelyn - Yes }
{ Jehanne - yes }
:{ Ginevra - yes }

::{ Patrick - yes, if we're talking shire level structure. }

6. Do you see South Africa as having many little SCA groups or one big one?
::{ Alastair - three or four }

{ Simon - Many but not lots (Changed from Many) }
:{ Rainer- lots }
{ Thomas - A Few (5?) }
:{ Rannulf - phrasing is a bit off on this one. I would like to see more SCA groups in South Africa, if that answers it? }
{ Hendrik - Lots }
:{ Sister MJ - Several }
{ Llewelyn - Many, but not lots =) Maybe one per metropole? }
:{ Jehanne - several }
{ Ginevra - with Rannulf on this one }
:{ Patrick - several }

Apologies for the altered smiley Llewelyn, but the colon mucks things up.

7. If the shire were to split should there still be a single South African SCA
publication like Storm Tidings?

{ Alastair - Yes }
:{ Simon - Yes }
{ Rainer- No }
:{ Thomas - No }
{ Rannulf - yes }
:{ Hendrik - Yes }
{ Sister MJ - No, but wide mention of other group's activities in local one. The admin is already a pain, what if we have >1 bank account? }
:{ Llewelyn - Maybe }
{ Jehanne - no. Balance of content is already a problem, and costs make much more sense if it's a local newsletter. I agree about info re other group's activities, though. }
:{ Ginevra - ??? }

::{ Patrick - no }

8. How attached are you to the "Adamastor" name?
::{ Alastair - Very }

{ Simon - Somewhat }
:{ Rainer- Somewhat }
{ Thomas - Lots }
:{ Rannulf - neutral }
{ Hendrik - Not a lot, even though it's a cool name }
:{ Sister MJ - Happy to put it to sleep till Barony time. Sad to lose it forever }
{ Llewelyn - Somewhat }
:{ Jehanne - very, but I can bite the bullet and give it up with moderate cheerfulness if necessary.}
{ Ginevra - A lot }
:{ Patrick - neutral }

9. How serious are the problems with the split administration as it stands?
(1 - never experienced any, 5 - strongly influences my experience)

{ Alastair - 1}
:{ Simon - 3 }
{ Rainer- 3 }
:{ Thomas - 4 }
{ Rannulf - 3 }
:{ Hendrik - 2 }
{ Sister MJ - 5! }
:{ Llewelyn - 4 }
{ Jehanne - 5 }
:{ Ginevra - 4 }

::{ Patrick - 4 }

10. Would separate SCA entities in South Africa make it more appealing for you to travel
to north/south events?

{ Alastair - No }
:{ Simon - Probably not }
{ Rainer- Travel anyway }
:{ Thomas - A little }
{ Rannulf - yes }
:{ Hendrik - Never travel anyway }
{ Sister MJ - No difference }
:{ Llewelyn - No difference }
{ Jehanne - yes }
:{ Ginevra - yes }

::{ Patrick - perhaps }

11. Do you think that the damage that had been done in terms of relationships
between the groups/people individually can be repaired should the Shire remain one group (as per Helena)

{ Alastair - No. The damage is done someone will always remember }
:{ Thomas - Not Really }
{ Rannulf - yes }
:{ Hendrik - Would find it surprising }
{ Simon - I think it can be, but agree with Hendrik }
:{ Sister MJ - Yes, with regard to relationships that weren't broken to begin with }
{ Llewelyn - Of course. We're adults. But I would still prefer to split }
:{ Jehanne - not really. Not by email.}

::{ Patrick - Yes, I would agree with Sister MJ on this }

12. Several proposals were made with reference to creating a barony-like structure within South Africa, with Farthings acting pretty much like Cantons. There is little/no precedent for these. How keen are you to press for such a structure at BoD? level?
(1 - totally against the idea; 5 - we should definitely do this)

{ Alastair - 3 }
:{ Thomas - 1 - I think we need resolution now, not 2 years in the future, which is possible if we wait on a BOD decision}
{ Sister MJ - 3 }
:{ Simon - 1 - I agree with Thomas. I also think the BoD? would rightly refused. }
{ Llewelyn - 2 - What Thomas said }
:{ Jehanne - 1. we should be able to sort this out within SCA structures. }
{ Patrick - 2 - I agree with Thomas about the time frame. }
:{ Hendrik - 1 - I think a big geographic structure is silly }

13. In the event of a split both new groups should have equivalent rights to the current shire name and device.
{1 - strongly disagree; 5 - strongly agree}

{ Alastair - 3 }
:{ Simon - 5 }
{ Thomas - 4 - I still think it's more associative with the South, but also understand the investment in it by the North }
:{ Llewelyn - 3 - I think it's much more appropriate to the South, but as Thomas said, the North has invested a lot }
{ Jehanne - 3, for exactly the same reasons as Llewellyn. }
:{ Sister MJ - 4, as above. The name was designed by the South, for the South, but the North have a large investment in it now )
{ Patrick 4, as above }
:{ Hendrik - 2 - Neither group should have rights, since it'll cause rifts. }

14. The South sends hurtful emails to the list more frequently than the North.
(1 - No, it's the exactly opposite; 5 - Yes it's competely true; Petunias - This is a silly question designed to defuse tension)

{ Alastair - och aye! }
:{ Simon - Petunias }
{ Thomas - Marigolds, Petunias are just wrong...err, I mean, you can have petunias if you like, please don't hit me...}
:{ Llewelyn - Daffodils! Because they're Welsh! }
{ Jehanne - Freesias! Because they smell nice! }
:{ Sister MJ - Pengiuns }
{ Hendrik - 4 - Caveat
There are way more Southerners on the list }

15. Do you think membership levels will be a problem if we split?
(1 - strongly disagree; 5 - strongly agree)

{ Alastair - 3 }
:{ Ginevra - 3 }
{ Thomas - 1, I still think this is a bit of a bugaboo rather than a real problem }
:{ Simon - 3 - I don't think they would be a problem, but the future is notoriously hard to predict }
{ *Jehanne - 3. It might. It might still be a problem if we remain one shire. I'm confident we could find a solution.}
:{ Sister MJ - 1 }
{ Patrick - 2 - I don't really see membership as a big problem }
:{ Hendrik - 3 - Not really worried about it }

I've put asterisks next to those who have not updated their response since the question changed. If you update your response, please remove the asterisk. Once all the asterisks are gone, remove this note.

16. If we were to be two shires, communication between them would be minimal at best.
(1 - strongly disagree; 5 - strongly agree)

{ Alastair - 5 }
:{ Ginevra - 4 }
{ Thomas - 3 }
:{ Simon - 2 }
{ Jehanne - 2. Positive interaction should stay about the same. Bickering would hopefully be minimal.}
:{ Sister MJ - 2 }
{ Patrick - 2 }
:{ Hendrik - 4 - especially if there are separate mailing lists }

17. North and South should have separate mailing lists.
(1 - strongly disagree; 5 - strongly agree)

{ Alastair - 1, oh do we realy have that many people to justify separate mailing lists? }
:{ Ginevra - 4 - but only if we decide to be two shires }
{ Thomas - 5, but same caveat as Ginevra }
:{ Simon - 3 }
{ Jehanne - 4, if we're two shires }
:{ Sister MJ - 4 ditto Jehanne & Ginevra }
{ Patrick - 4 }
:{ Hendrik - 2 - I'm with Al }

18. One mailing list for the whole of SCA in SA should be maintained.
(1 - strongly disagree; 5 - strongly agree)

{ Alastair - 5 }
:{ Ginevra - 5, I don't think this precludes also having separate lists if necessary }
{ Thomas - 5 }
:{ Simon - 5 }
{ Jehanne - 5 }
:{ Sister MJ - 5 }
{ Patrick - 5 }
:{ Hendrik - 5 }

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